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deborah ([personal profile] deborah) wrote2010-10-26 10:39 pm
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authorial intent

It just occurred to me that it would be really easy in this day and age to put together a portfolio of online and offline writings by creators to show students how impossible it is to get at authorial intent as any meaningful way of interpreting the text. (I don't deny the you can get it authorial intent as a meaningful way of interpreting the authors, nor do I deny that some might find it fruitful to analyze the disjunction between stated authorial intent and the text as it stands. I just find neither of these interesting from a literary criticism point of view.)

But these days, creators of texts are so willing to talk about their intentions that would be really easy to let students analyze a series of texts, make their own judgments, and then read stated authorial intent. Example: give them a series of texts whose creators have claimed to have major feminist intent but where the text itself is a mixed bag, such as Buffy, or (far worse) Veronica Mars. Or how about His Dark Materials, together with an essay by Pullman in which he explains how the trilogy brought down the kingdom of god? (/me pets poor Pullman on the head) Or a book by one of the many authors who has shown his or her ass on the Internet over the last few years -- because some of them have written quite thoughtful, kyriarchy-challenging books? Or the Twilight series, along with Stephenie Meyer explaining how feminist her books are, how much they celebrate her female characters' freedom of choice?

I feel like this could potentially be really fruitful, in helping students to understand that while what authors say might be interesting, it's not a useful way of analyzing the text in hand.

[identity profile] kristincashore.blogspot.com 2010-10-27 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, yes, and YES.
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[personal profile] tahnan 2010-10-27 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of which, Cat and Girl.

[personal profile] diceytillerman 2010-10-27 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliant. This could be a whole unit in a class actually.
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[personal profile] karenhealey 2010-10-28 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes pleeeeeease.
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[personal profile] ayelle 2010-10-29 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes! That would be AWESOME. That's exactly what I DO find interesting about authorial intent.

It's also interesting to be teaching a writing seminar, because we talk about authorial intent all the time from a different perspective -- because my students are trying to write, and essentially half the purpose of discussing the readings for the class is to get them to think about these pieces of writing from a WRITERLY point of view. And yeah, that mean's discussing the author's intent in writing the piece -- noting where it went wrong, but also, one hopes, showing them what authors do right in terms of successfully conveying their intentions insofar as that is an achievable goal (because they have to believe that it is!), because I'm trying to teach them useful tools!

But of course I'm trying to get them to write literary-critical essays (well, sort of -- the class is on fairy tales, so it's not quite that simple! But that's still my primary discipline, of course, despite the multiplicity of useful approaches when it comes to discussing fairy tales that we're looking at) -- a discipline in which they have to remember that discussing authorial intent is NOT a window into the True Meaning of the text.

It's a lot for them to juggle, but I LOVE this stuff, so that helps.
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[personal profile] mercredigirl 2010-11-04 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a GREAT idea. ^^;
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[personal profile] eccentrikita 2010-11-04 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This is excellent! Yes yes yes. Or like, any of the scifi authors who have written "yay equality" books an then gone all "except for you!" on their blogs. It is my opinion that the "yay equality" books still stand. (But if the author's "except for you!" was heinous enough, I won't pay for them anymore. :P)
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[personal profile] lanjelin 2010-11-05 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I'm not so sure I agree.

Authors often do fail in their intent, but does that really make it irrelevant to examine it? I think that an exploration of how and why an author's intended message failed or succeeded might be just as important a part of analysis as the text itself.

I think ignoring the author's intent altogether is ignoring an important amount of information about the text.
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[personal profile] strikesoftly 2010-11-08 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Also here via metafandom, and while I have nothing insightful to offer, I just wanted to leave an enthusiastic "YES YES YES." The critical theory class I'm taking right now touches briefly on this (in the form of Roland Barthes' "The Death of the Author"), but I'd love to take an entire course dedicated to the various facets of (not) interpreting a text based on authorial intent.